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One Customer’s Story of Listening in Depth and Seeing the Light

Hot Stamper Pressings of the Music of Fleetwood Mac Available Now

One of our good customers had this to say about a Hot Stamper pressing of Fleetwood Mac’s Self-titled album (1975) he purchased recently:

Hey Tom, 

Sorry to say I will be returning this White Hot Stamper. Did a lot of research before ordering, understand and fully appreciate what you’re doing, seriously sad to not be keeping it. Pretty obviously you are crazy dedicated to this so wanted to fully explain why. Especially since there’s still good odds I would like to try again.

First let me say it was quite the experience unpacking and seeing a cover still in its original shrink wrap. Probably quite a few would consider that alone worth the price. I never even slipped it out of the excellent plastic sleeve you shipped it in, that’s how much instant respect I have for the unbelievably unlikely existence of this thing. It truly is amazing. I bought it for the music not the cover, but still….

The reason I will be returning this is Side 1. Monday Morning was a disappointment, but I really think we are kind of at the mercy of the master here. Warm Ways is a whole lot better, and yes quite a bit better than my copy, with a fair bit more inner detail and palpable presence but overall not much more than I have got from some good 45 or heavy vinyl pressings.

Just so you know, yes I do follow all your suggestions. Warm up, demagnetize, anti-static, all of that and more. Have a demagnetizer much more effective than the Talisman. Been doing all this stuff over 20 years now. Because I hear and appreciate. Cables elevated off the floor. Every wire from the breaker to the speaker been cryo’d. Yes I pulled the wire out of the house, drove it down to Cryo One, had them do it all.

Part of the problem. I hear how much better Side 1 is, it goes into that frame of reference. For over $300 it needs to be at least as great an improvement over my copy as I can get from warm-up, demagnetize, etc. Its not. Well your rating did say Side 2 was a bit better. Frankly, I think you could stand to correct that. Side 2 is a whole lot better. Right from the first track its just way more lively, present, dynamic, punchy, you name it. Not sure why you say Say You Love Me is “rich and sweet and tubey” probably that is one of the stock phrases you use throughout the site because this track offers, relative to the others on this side, less of this.

Which brings me to Landslide, and World Turning. These two tracks totally deserve all the most glowing Better Records accolades! Simply superb sonics. Better even in some ways than my MoFi 45 of Brothers in Arms. Now this is what I was hoping for! The spellbinding sound of these two tracks is almost enough to make me forget Side 1.

Almost. And its not like the rest of Side 2 is bad. Honestly, when it gets to this level (of pressing quality) you can hear so deeply what’s going on it becomes inescapable we are at a level where we are at the mercy of the mastering engineer. Or if not him then someone even further along up the recording chain. You know what I mean. I know you know what I mean. Because, in reading one of your glowing reviews was the comment, basically, “but get real, its Springsteen.” Because for whatever reason he could never be bothered to turn out a good recording.

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Letter of the Week – “It sounds like you’re listening to some kind of cultural artifact in a black box…”

Welcome to Better Records, the Home of  the Ultimate Pressing: the Hot Stamper

UPDATE 2026

This letter came to us in 2022.


An erstwhile customer (Conrad, where did you go?) had this to say about some Hot Stampers he purchased a while back. (I’ve edited it a bit.)

Hey Tom, 

Curious your thoughts on Analog Productions reissues? From the few I’ve heard, they seem to be among the better ‘new records’ out there, at least when they’re not involving digital in the process. 

Conrad,

How is it that you missed all my posts about their records? This link will take you to them: Analogue Productions.

I feel like I attack them too much, but apparently not!

Simply put, they may be the worst record label of all time.

Certainly no label is worse, some may be as bad, the Electric Recording guy in England is probably tied for most awful, Mobile Fidelity is up there too, but there are so many contenders for Worst Audiophile Record Label of All Time, how could you possibly know where to begin?

Not one record of AP I have ever heard was not awful, and if there are others that are not awful that I have yet to audition, those are very likely to be worse than a plain old copy easily found in a record store or on the web.

Curious to know what record of theirs you like. I find the very idea almost unimaginable.

TP

Ha ha, enjoyed reading some of that.

I’m in the odd position that I can both entirely see what your criticisms are, and to a good extent share them, and yet, at least with the jazz records I’ve heard from them, I’m also hearing things I like.

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What Willie and Nat Can Teach Us about Heavy Vinyl

Hot Stamper Pressings of the Music of Willie Nelson Available Now

UPDATE 2024

This letter came to us many years ago. Updates have been added since then.


One of our good customers had this to say about some Hot Stampers he had purchased:

Hello team,

I’ve been a little distracted here, I got married over the weekend! So, haven’t done as much listening over the past couple of weeks. However, I did have a chance to listen to Stardust and Love Is The Thing. They were both different than their Classic Records and Analogue Productions counterparts. Willie sounded a little smoother, more organic, and more integrated.

The strings on Love Is The Thing were very different, more pronounced and emotional, but Nat’s voice, and the sound overall, sounded a little strident, maybe “too” hot.

I’d like to send them both back to you, and if you have a chance to send back the discs I sent to you I’d very much appreciate it. All told, the two big sets of Better Records are really incredible, and only serve to make my want list grow. Here’s to you and the next set!

Doug,

We now have the update for those two titles.

I, along with the two other guys in our listening panels, sat down to play the Heavy Vinyl you sent us, and the long and short of it is that we were astonished that records that sound as bad as those two actually were approved for release.

Nat is wrong six ways from Sunday, and Willie is not so much wrong as just not very good.

Nat: “F,” one of the worst heavy vinyl disasters of all time, and Willie: “D” sound, more like a CD than a record. There are many pressings of this album that are not good, but this version is probably worse than most of them, hence the D grade.

The old Classic pressing is probably better, and it would earn about a C grade. [I honestly do not remember exactly what pressing Douglas sent us. All I remember is that it was on Heavy Vinyl.]

I suspect the CDs of both these pressings are much better sounding than this vinyl.

The DCC gold is definitely better by a long shot, and the plain old Willie CD is probably a step up as well. 


A Further Update

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Letter of the Week – “I will spare you the time to comment on my 1992 Analogue Productions Reissue…”

Hot Stamper Pressings of Sonny Rollins’s Albums Available Now

One of our good customers had this to say about some Hot Stamper pressings he purchased recently:

Dear Tom and Fred

After having had the opportunity to listen to the next batch of 7 more records, here are my observations on the 40 records I have now bought from you.

First to my listening experience. After receiving the CSNY 4 Way Street and looking for my own record, I thought was a German press easy to beat I realized it was a white label promo first press and thought, oh, did I make a mistake to buy this for this kind of money from you guys, this may be a tough one to crack?

Not so, your SH Stamper clearly beat the WL promo, check!

Next up was the Miles Davis Sketches of Spain White Hot Stamper, one of my very top Miles favorites.

I did not recall that I had the six eye first press, and on side 2, with identical stampers (when your 3/3 WH show up, you do not have the time to check this but hurry :-since your WH 3/3s sell like hot cakes!).

So even more difficult to beat?? Promising start: your WH was clearly better on side 1, now to the identical stampers side 2: not as clearly but still just more transparent, better drums, less shrill on track 2, check!

But it certainly cannot get better than this 3/3 WH stamper, can it?

Next up is Sonny Rollins 3/3 WH Stamper [of Way Out West]. Hard to believe, but yes, even better than the great Miles 3/3 WHS, and I will spare you the time to comment on my 1992 Analogue Productions reissue which I always thought was quite decent.

And so it goes on…

Christian

Christian,

In less than a year you have acquired a large number of simply amazing sounding records. Congratulations.

As you point out about the stampers, you may have a pressing with the right stampers, but our copy will still beat it. How it was pressed and how it was cleaned are critical to the sound, and that is not something the stamper numbers can tell you. It’s a subject we discuss often. Here is a good place to start.

Here on the blog there are a great many examples of records with the same stampers that do not have the same sound.

As for your 1992 Analogue Productions Heavy Vinyl remaster, I honestly don’t know how anyone can listen to a record with sound like that and consider it acceptable, or, in your words, “quite decent.” I went into the long story of the album in this commentary.

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“…this BR copy just lifted the veil.”

Hot Stamper Pressings of the Music of Pink Floyd Available Now

One of our good customers had a few things to say about a Hot Stamper pressing of Meddle he purchased recently, which turned out to have the same stampers as the copy he already owned.

He had no way of knowing what the stampers of our copy were when he ordered it of course. It no doubt came as a surprise, but thankfully Michel did not judge the record we sent him by the stamper numbers. No, he judged it the way it should have been judged, by the sound.

In this case the sound was clearly superior to the copy he had even though the stampers of the two records were identical. (If you would like to see more examples of this phenomenon, we have plenty here. It actually happens all the time. It’s so common that we rarely bother to make blog posts about it. Years ago we wrote a piece about it expressing our views on the subject.)

Hi Tom,

Just a quick note about Meddle WHS. I also had an A!/B! XXX which does sound pretty good and is quiet, but this BR copy just lifted the veil.

Once I dialed in the sweet spot it was a delightful experience. This copy is the bomb!!

Many Thanks,
Michel

Michel,

Not all A!/B!’s are created equal!

Most copies of the album with the right stampers will earn a grade of Super Hot, A++.

Some will be White Hot, A+++.

Almost all the pressings we play will have the same stamper numbers, although you may have read that we did just find another stamper for side two that can win shootouts.

Some of the difference in sound is the result of our using The Prelude Record Cleaning System, in conjunction with the Odyssey record cleaning machine we purchased in 2007 (more on that here).

Clean records sound better than they uncleaned records, and properly cleaned records often sound much better than they otherwise would, oftentimes a full grade better.

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“It’s great to hear a copy of this record that does the music justice.”

Hot Stamper Pressings of the Music of Richard Thompson Available Now

One of our good customers years ago had this to say about a Hot Stamper pressing of Shoot Out the Lights he’d purchased:

Hey Tom,   

Recently purchased The Hot Stamper of R&L Thompson’s Shoot Out The Lights. What a wonderful copy! Easily put to shame the copies I have on hand by a long shot. It’s great to hear a copy of this record that does the music justice. An exceptional find on your part. Great doing business with you.

Jim S.

Jim,

Glad to hear you liked the copy we sent you as much as we did. We love the album and wish more audiophiles would give it a try. It is a truly extraordinary recording.

With very special recordings like this one, if you turn up your volume good and loud, you will surely be amazed at how dynamic the guitar solos are. I wrote about just such an experience I had many years ago.

I’ve seen Richard Thompson on a number of occasions over the years, and as loud as my stereo will play, which is pretty darn loud, I’ve never been able to make his guitar solos 20 dB louder than everything else, because they’re simply not on the record that way. That’s why live music can’t be reproduced faithfully in the home: the dynamic contrasts are much too great for the typical listener, or his stereo. 

Having said that, when you actually do turn this record up, way up, you get the feeling of hearing live music, and that’s not easy to do.

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“Un******believable that any record could sound that good.”

Hot Stamper Pressings of the Music of America Available Now

One of our good customers had this to say about some Hot Stamper pressings he purchased not long ago, one of which was the album you see pictured: America’s debut.

Hey Tom, 

I want to tell you I bought America’s 1st LP from you some couple of years back. White Hot designation at that time. I don’t know if you have found one better since then.

Paid big dollars and I still cannot believe the sound. Worth every penny. 

When I play that LP, I cannot avoid getting goose bumps or getting totally enveloped with the music. The guitars and vocals are flat out surreal.

It is just as amazing as the Eagles 1st LP Hot Stamper. Un******believable that any record could sound that good.

Bill 

Bill,

Thanks for your letter. I know exactly what you mean. In 1971 or 1972, while still in high school, I got my first copy of America and it quickly became a record I could not get enough of. Only later would I learn from my friend Robert Pincus that it was a landmark pressing in the world of Hippie Folk Rock, a genre that makes up much of the music I listen to these days.

We’ve been promoting the idea that music does the driving for more years than I can remember. Much of what drove me was acoustic folk rock, the kind of music I fell in love with when Crosby, Stills and Nash released their first album in 1969. I credit many of those albums with helping me (later us) improve the quality of our playback.

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“I am basically left without words, amazingly jaw dropping.”

Hot Stamper Pressings of the Music of The Beatles Available Now

Years ago we received this letter about a Hot Stamper pressing of Abbey Road.

Hello Gentlemen,

Today I listened to the copy of Abbey Road I bought from you last week. I am basically left without words, amazingly jaw dropping. Thank you so much.

Bennett

Bennett,

We love it when our customers’ jaws drop — it’s exactly the reaction we hope for when we discover killer copies in a shootout. They blow our minds and we’re glad they blew yours too.

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“I started leaving notes and assessments which I frequently check later and often correct, since I keep learning more and more what to listen for.”

Our Guide to Record Collecting for Audiophiles

One of our customers wanted to give us his reactions to the first year’s worth of Hot Stamper pressings he had purchased, starting in 2022 and hitting 31 by 2023. (He has since put in more than 200 additional orders. Turns out he really likes our records.)

What you see below is just a small excerpt from the longer letter he sent. Apologies for not having posted it sooner. (Emphasis added.)

Dear Tom

I learned already a lot from your website by constantly following your new entries and digging into older ones.

I listen to my records at a far louder level than I used to and can appreciate the advantages of bringing the music really to life (while hopefully not hurting my not very young ears :-).

More importantly, I listen to my large collection more than I ever did.

I started leaving notes and assessments which I check frequently later and often correct, since I keep learning more and more what to listen for. I never did this before and it is great fun. And I keep scribbling a list of records which I may be interested in to buy from you.

There are also lots of reissues I bought and never really compared to originals, taking for granted the kudos they receive frequently in the press. Some are good, some are respectable, some are really bad, and none was as good or even better than a good original or one of your SH stampers at hand for comparison.

The One step Mofi Michael Jackson is almost a bad joke compared to your Super Hot stamper. So I stopped buying reissues and started putting aside still sealed reissues which should sell well anytime in the future.

To sum it up: I never had more fun listening to my collection and to your records thanks to you guys. Keep up the good work.

Christian

Christian,

Thanks for your letter. We love to hear from customers who actually take the time to read what we say about records and, even better, follow our advice (wherever possible) regarding their playback.

When you listen critically to records, taking the time to compare pressings and actually making notes about what you are hearing, you will certainly end end up understanding and enjoying the music you play on a much deeper and more emotionally powerful level. As you put it so well:

“I never did this before and it is great fun.”

Which means you get what we have been saying for more than twenty years:

When you do the work needed to get good sound, and the work it takes to find better records, the effort you make is work, but much more importantly, it is fun.

If it wasn’t fun, who would do it?

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“The records are so good I cannot concentrate on anything else while they are playing.”

Hot Stamper Pressings of the Music of The Beatles Available Now

One of our good customers had this to say about some Hot Stampers he purchased recently, one of which was Please Please Me.

Hey Tom, 

In the fall of 2007 I ordered my first Hot Stamper from you, Please Please Me.

Since then I have bought several more Hot Stampers from you, and occasionally you or Todd have written me asking how I like them. I have always replied saying I haven’t listened to them yet, because I’m waiting to buy a good enough turntable to do them justice. 

Good news: I now have a very good turntable.

Even better news: I have now listened to the first few Hot Stampers, and the combination of my new turntable and your Hot Stampers is heavenly.

The records are so good I cannot concentrate on anything else while they are playing, I just have to listen, and I want them to go on for ever.

The detail and clarity are breathtaking and it’s difficult to believe the sound can be really that good, but it is. It’s like the musicians are there in the room, it’s amazing.

For example, Please Please Me and Mccartney Unplugged are stunning, but in truth all the ones I’ve listened to so far are stunning. I’m really looking forward to listening to the rest.

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