Weak Sound or Music

These vintage records didn’t sound very good to us. Additionally, some made the list because the music or performances were not to our liking.

As to their sound quality, some of them are bad recordings, but some are no doubt just bad pressings of good recordings. Either way, audiophiles should avoid them.

Bad sounding Heavy Vinyl and Half-Speed mastered pressings can be found in their own sections.

Avoid the Tan Labels and Non-TML Pressings for Nilsson Schmilsson

Hot Stamper Pressings of the Music of Harry Nilsson Available Now

Not that we would ever claim that TML in the dead wax guarantees good sound.

Side two of our tan label copy below was passable, but sonically that’s a very long way from the top copies we played, which of course were all TML, with lots of different stampers — none of which we are likely to reveal, now or in the future, for reasons we are sure you understand.

Anyone who buys one of our White Hot Stamper copies will definitely know, but we only find a couple of those every few years, as this is not a shootout that’s been easy to do for a very long time.

(Recently we started revealing some of the best stamper numbers we’d discovered in our shootouts to date, and we hope to spill the beans on many more in the coming years. In addition, we’ve always been comfortable talking about the stampers for titles we keep a mystery. That information won’t help you find your own Hot Stamper pressings, but the stamper sheets we publish might just help you appreciate how unhelpful knowing the “right” stampers actually turns out to be much of the time.

Make sure your equipment is tuned up and the electricity is good before you get anywhere near a pressing of this album.

Big production pop like this is hard to pull off. Harry did an amazing job, but the recording is not perfect judging by the dozen or so copies I played this week and the scores I’ve suffered through before.

Nilsson Schmilsson is an album we think we know well, one that checks off a number of important boxes for us here at Better Records:

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The Recordings of Steely Dan – These Two Didn’t Make the Grade

Hot Stamper Pressings of the Music of Steely Dan Available Now

Gold, the album on the left, is from 1982 and was mastered by Robert Ludwig. It’s an OK record, nothing more, and offers few of the thrills that the real albums do when they’ve been mastered and pressed right. (To my knowledge, never by Robert Ludwig.)

The soundtrack album below might interest collectors, but it has forgettable music with barely passable sound. Steely Dan is one of our favorite bands here at Better Records. This is not their best work.

We’ve written more about their albums than any other group’s outside of The Beatles, with more than 60 reviews and commentaries to date.

Our advice: Stick with the seven real albums that were released between 1972 and 1980. Each and every one of them is a brilliant work of art in its own way. For audiophiles, it just doesn’t get any better than Steely Dan.

Here is where it all started

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Scooped and Weird – Can That Really Be the Right Sound for Neil’s Debut?

Hot Stamper Pressings of the Music of Neil Young Available Now

Many years ago we thought the early pressings of Neil Young’s first album, the ones using the original mix, had the best sound.

We realized — eventually — that we were way off the mark about that and took the time to write a couple of commentaries about that awful mix, explaining just how wrong we were.

However, the right mix only gets you so far. There are dozens of different pressings of this album, and most of them are not very good sounding. In our Hot Stamper listings we note as much:

The sound of the typical pressing leaves a lot to be desired. You get copies where Neil’s voice is so forward that it quickly becomes fatiguing and unpleasant. Many later pressings are just the opposite — Neil’s voice is so muffled he’s practically underwater, probably because those pressings are made from copy tapes of compromised fidelity.

It’s the rare copy that puts him in the right place, and even then there are still plenty of ways in which a copy can fall well short of the best.

We played a copy from the shootout pressed on the later tan label that turned out to be a real mess. Nothing else in our shootout sounded quite like it, and that’s a good thing.

It was just bizarre:

  • Scooped and weird
  • No upper mids but scratchy highs

Can you imagine playing a copy this wrong and thinking you were hearing the sound that Neil had recorded? That was Reprise in the mid-seventies — they could not have cared less what the old titles they were stamping out sounded like. Why should they? There wasn’t any money in it and customers didn’t seem to mind.

If it’s all about the music, as some mistaken audiophiles will tell you to this day, what on earth does sound quality have to do with it anyway? (Keep in mind this was long before the advent of the CD. If you wanted to buy a new copy of the album, it was a crappy reissue LP or a cassette. Your poison awaits.)

And it gets worse. Practically every reissue produced after 1975 was every bit as bad. Here’s a typical Winchester pressing that somehow made it into the shootout, probably as a matter of curiosity:

It would be hard to judge which of these two awful pressings had the worst sound. I suppose with the right tone controls, assuming your premap has such things, you could try to fix the WW pressing. The earlier pressing strikes me as a lost cause. (To get a better feel for what we mean by scooped-out mids, here’s a good example, a record that some audiophiles actually have in their collections, hard as that may be to believe.)

It took us a long time to figure out which pressings had the right sound for this music. If you want to go down that lonesome road, the one thing I can tell you is that you definitely have your work cut out for you. Good luck though. If you stick with it, you will surely learn a lot, even if you end up with a pressing that doesn’t sound remotely as good as the ones we sell.

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Is the OJC Pressing of Jazz Giant Really 100x Worse?

Hot Stamper Pressings of Contemporary Jazz Albums Available Now

UPDATE 2026

This commentary is from many years ago. The OJC’s can be decent on this title, but some of them, like the one we played and discuss here from way back when, can be awful sounding.

However, we played a copy of OJC-167 in our most recent 2026 shootout. It earned grades of 1+/1.5+, almost good enough to qualify as a Hot Stamper, which simply means it has the potential to be decent but, based on our experience, you are more likely to get a bad one than a good one.

Our notes in 2026 read:

  • Veiled and dry
  • Not natural

Still, not a bad sounding copy, better than nine out of ten Heavy Vinyl pressings we play these days. They rarely earn even one plus.

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Aerial Boundaries Has Some of the Most Bizarrely Unnatural Digital Sound We Have Ever Heard

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It sounds as if someone went into the biggest studio they could book, sat Michael Hedges down on a stool in the middle of it, and then took all the mics and aimed them at the walls.

Roll tape! (Assuming they used tape, who knows what kind of crap digital system they were using?)

And the best part is that it was nominated for an engineering Grammy!

If you think the average music lover today wouldn’t know good sound if it bit him in the ass, this album is proof that nothing has changed, not since 1984 anyway.

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Boy, Was We Ever Wrong About Solti’s Rite of Spring

Hot Stamper Pressings of the Music of Igor Stravinsky Available Now

UPDATE 2026

This is an old and somewhat embarrassing commentary providing the evidence for just how wrong we were about the sound of Solti’s 1974 recording for Decca.

Here is what we had to say about the album in 2008:

This is an amazing recording, DEMO QUALITY SOUND, far better than the Decca heavy vinyl reissue that came out in the 2000s. [That part is no doubt true.]

This record is extremely dynamic; full of ambience; tonally correct; with tons of deep bass. Because it’s a more modern recording, it doesn’t have the Tubey Magic of some Golden Age originals, but it compensates for that shortcoming by being less distorted and “clean.” Some people may consider that more accurate. To be honest with you, I don’t know if that is in fact the case.

However, this record should not disappoint sonically and the performance is every bit as exciting and powerful as any you will find. The Chicago Symphony has the orchestral chops to make a work of this complexity sound effortless.

Skip forward to the present, roughly ten years later. We had three or four copies on hand to audition when we surveyed the work a couple of years ago in preparation for a big shootout.

The Solti did not make the cut. It was not even in the ballpark.

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The Not So Swingin’ Nutcracker in Living Stereo

Hot Stamper Pressings of Living Stereo Recordings Available Now

UPDATE 2026

We wrote the commentary you see below about 15 years ago.

We liked the record back then just fine. However, we recently got another couple of copies in and they sounded OK, not great, but what really had aged badly was the music, which was corny and, worst of all, contra the album’s title, definitely did not swing. Don’t waste your money on this one the way we did.

There are many jazz pressings we’ve discovered with audiophile quality sound and enjoyable music, but we reluctantly had to admit that this title should no longer be considered one of them. Live and learn, right?

We hope we can be forgiven for our mistaken bias in favor of a Golden Age title with a cool vintage cover. (And it wouldn’t be the first time.)

Another source of mistaken thinking: The Swingin’ Nutcracker came out in 1960, a year known for a great many other exceptionally good sounding titles produced during the Golden Age of vacuum tube recording. After playing so many wonderful recordings on that label, from that era, we were primed to like it regardless of whatever shortcomings it might have had.

This is why we recommend audiophiles pull titles off their massive shelves and give them a spin from time to time. Some records have simply not stood the test of time as well as others. Some will be better than we remember, some worse.

A wall full of records, most of which have not been played in years, even decades, is not a record collection worthy of the name. It’s better understood as a pile of vinyl that has been doing nobody any good for a very long time and, according to Newton’s Laws of Motion, will continue doing nothing for nobody forever.

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Roger The Engineer Is Awful on the Early UK Pressing

Hot Stamper Pressings of British Blues Rock Albums Available Now

A hall of shame pressing if there ever was one.

The UK pressing of Roger the Engineer we played was pure crap.

Cool for collectors I suppose, but very bad news for audiophiles.

Your response to this news may depend on which camp you find yourself in. If you love collecting original pressings, we would put you in the record collector camp, not the audiophile one. Audiophiles are supposed to care about sound quality, so if the more original pressing is the one you want, then you are a record collector first and an audiophile second, if at all. Harsh? Let’s call a spade a spade.

Regardless, we ask that you please not buy into that record collecting / audiophile canard that the originals are always going to be the best sounding pressings. The hundreds of reissues listed here prove otherwise.

The original British pressing — true, we only had the one, so take it for what it’s worth — was a poor imitation of what was most likely on the master tape, as revealed by the Edsel reissues.

Maybe you have a good sounding one. We can’t say you don’t.  But we would be very unlikely to spend much money on an original import pressing after hearing this one.

And the domestic records we’ve played were clearly made from dub tapes, so they’re a bust too.

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A Deep, Deep Dive into LSC 2323 – A Shootout Like No Other

Hot Stamper Pressings of Orchestral Spectaculars Available Now

Years ago, around 2005 if memory serves, I played a copy of the Classic Records remastered pressing of LSC 2323 and thought it was pretty good.

It seemed better than the Shaded Dog copies I had compared it to, which, based on the hundreds of other Classic Records titles I had auditioned up to then, was unexpected to say the least.

Unheard of is more like it. (That is no longer true — stay tuned for the story of the one Classic Records classical record that actually won a shootout not that long ago.)

Little did I know that the Shaded Dog pressings on this title are not remotely competitive with the right early reissues.

The best of the Shaded Dog pressings we could find, which just happened to have a 1s side one, came in tied for last with the one 70s Red Seal pressing we thought sounded good enough to make the shootout. (Most are terrible.)[1][2]

Some Inside Baseball

Most of the Shaded Dogs and Red Seals were needle-dropped, and all but two were eliminated before the shootout. It takes time and wastes money to clean and play pressings that sound hopeless, so a quick elimination round often precedes the cleaning process.

Back then it was tough to wrap my head around the idea that a Classic Record classical title could actually be better sounding than a Shaded Dog — it had never happened, so I knew there had to be more to the story.

The time to do a serious investigation of LSC 2323 necessary to get to the bottom of what was truly a head scratcher was not in the cards, so I shelved the project for close to the next twenty years. (Other such oddities have their own section here by the way.)

This title would have to wait until 2025 to go through a proper shooout, and when it did, naturally the Classic was part of the mix, which is the way we do things here at Better Records.

Why? Because every record with any hope of sounding good must be given the chance to show us what it can do. It deserves to be evaluated fairly, without the listener having any knowledge as to which pressing my be playing.

It turns out that side one of the Classic was passable, but side two — the side I had never played — was every bit as bad as most of their other classical offerings, which is very bad indeed.

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For Scottish Fantasy, Forget the Red Seal Pressings

Hot Stamper Pressings Featuring the Violin Available Now

The 70s Red Seal pressings we’ve played recently have all left a lot to be desired, but, since we had one sitting on a shelf in the backroom with lower stampers, we figured what the hell, let’s clean it up, throw it into our next shootout and hope for the best.

As you can see, the best was not to come.

There are quite a number of other records that we’ve run into over the years with obvious shortcomings.

Here are some of them, a very small fraction of what we’ve played, broken down into the three major labels that account for most of the best classical and orchestral titles we’ve had the pleasure to play.

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