Do The Original Domestic KC Pressings Always Beat the Later PC LPs?

Hot Stamper Pressings of Psychedelic Rock Recordings Available Now

Here is our description for the Super Hot (2+) copy that is currently on the site:

One of the most important records in my growth as an audiophile from 1971 to the present – my stereo was forced to evolve in order to play this kind of big production rock at the loud levels that the album needs in order to work its magic.

No matter how many times you play it, you will most likely hear – or at least gain more of an appreciation for – something new in the exceptionally dense, sophisticated soundfield Chris Kimsey creates for these songs.

And each time you make an improvement in the quality of your playback, this is the album that will show you exactly what you have just accomplished.


Overall, the best performers in our most recent shootout were UK pressings. They ranged in sound from the 3/3 Shootout Winning pressing (not shown) to the lowest graded British copy which earned grades of 1.5+/2+ (at the bottom of the top box).

On the left is a portion of the breakdown, minus the actual stamper numbers that earned the highest grades (for obvious reasons.)

We had six UK pressings, all with the same stampers — the five you see graded and the one hidden to the left that actually won the shootout. (Three sides earned White Hot Stamper grades, an unusual outcome and a good one for the bottom line.)

Note that with the “right stampers” you could have ended up with an incredible Demo Disc (copy #1) or just a very good sounding copy on side two mated to a passable side one (copy #6).

Finding six clean UK pressings is, as you can well imagine, neither cheap nor easy. We probably bought close to twice that many to end up with six that we’re in something close to audiophile playing condition.

As you can see from the grades, two of them were clearly inferior to the other four. In the case of this title, a small sample size could have been very misleading. Fortunately for us, we spent the money and the time it takes to track down a good-sized batch of UK pressings in order to avoid that possibility.

Next come the better domestic pressings. There was a 2+/2+ that outscored all the other domestic pressings, and four others that came in behind it, all with the same stampers.

Of the five copies that had those stampers, two had side two’s that scored sub-Hot Stamper grades, which marked them as unsaleable. (Perhaps we will offer them as one-sided records since their side one’s are so good.)

KC VS PC

We rarely have good luck with PC reissue copies when the originals come with the KC prefix, rarely meaning we find a PC winner maybe once out of every ten titles we play.

The stamper sheet above illustrates that there were two KC pressings that lost out to the best PC pressing.

Two more of the PC pressings were not very good.

This was a big shootout — 17 copies! Probably took three or four hours of very intense listening at loud levels, maybe with a lunch break before the best handful of pressings were pitted against each other in the final round.

What Did We Learn?

Based on what I could find on old stamper sheets, we hadn’t done this shootout since 2017, a lifetime in the world of Hot Stampers. In 2017 a number of KC pressings did well, with one earning a 3+ grade on side two, beating our best British pressing. Our playback quality has apparently come a long way since then as that would just not be in the cards these days.

  • Stick with the Brits

The best domestics can do fine, but when two out of five are unsaleable due to a weak side two, and none of them are cheap to buy, they are clearly more trouble than they are worth.

  • Don’t waste your time with the PC pressings. Your odds of finding a good one are just too slim.

This is also the case with the best sounding Red Label pressings of Kind of Blue. There are really good stampers for the 70s pressings, but they are so hard to find that we have all but given up looking for them.


When it comes to stampers, labels, mastering credits, country of origin and the like, we make a point of revealing little of such information on the site, for a number of reasons we discussed in a commentary we wrote many years ago, at the dawn of the Hot Stamper revolution. (Ahem.)

However, in 2024 we decided to reverse our previous policy. We now make available to our readers a great deal of that information, under these four headings:

Please to enjoy.

Some information has been left out, the specific stamper numbers for our Shootout Winners for example, and in the cases where we give out the stampers for the top copies, we do not identify the title of the record with those stampers.

As you can well imagine, our sizable investments in research and development over the course of decades make up a big part of the costs we must pass on to our customers.

We are more than happy to give out some tips — plenty of them in fact.

However, if you really want to find the best sounding pressing of any given title, you have to do the work we did, and that means buying, cleaning, playing and evaluating a big batch of pressings of the same album.

It may be expensive, it’s definitely a huge amount of work, but our experience tells us there is simply no other way to do it.

4 comments

  1. My HS (A++/A++) A Space In Time is indeed a Red Label KC pressing : -1E / -1D
    Bought several years ago. So happy :))

    1. Dear Sir,
      1E/1D this time around earned grades of 1.5+ on both sides.

      Such a great album, glad to hear you are pleased with it!

      Best, TP

      P.S.

      Found the old stamper sheet, and there at the top of the KC pressings is your copy. We had two copies with those stampers and both earned 2+ grades.

      12/13/17 Ten Years After A Space in Time Red KC 2 2 1E 1D others: 2/2
      12/13/17 Ten Years After A Space in Time Red KC 1.5 2 1D 1D others: 1.5/1.5
      12/13/17 Ten Years After A Space in Time Red KC 1.5 2 1J 1AA etched S1

      1. Thank you Tom, very kind to remind to me it was 2017. It was also my last purchase at Better-records , and yes, it is me : ( about Avalon):

        “…the 7 Hot Stampers records i have bought from Better Records in the past, (albums i know well all my life, and that I have already had many versions, incl. OG’s 1st, and “audiophile” versions) are some of the best sounding records in my collection.

        They have helped improve my listening skills enormously; not just “listening”, but 100% enjoy and appreciate the music. Seeking out for my “own” hot stampers now, is what really makes this hobby so interesting! (for example: Roxy Music Avalon, after buying and comparing 5 copies, incl. UK 1st Arun cut, I now have “my” best sounding one, and indeed it is a reissue (vintage, not modern “audiophile”)¨! Denis Blackham (BilBo) did a very good job on this one…”

        …. I have now a UK 1st Arun Pressing A-4 / B-1, and yes, it may be slightly better than the Bilbo (1987) cutting ! ( i guess the Arun A-1/B-1 could be the “right one”…)
        Other Hot Stampers i have bought from you in the past : Led Zeppelin I ;
        Santana I and III ; Beatles HELP ; Joplin PEARL and Kozmic Blues; and Kind Of Blue ! Oh : Abraxas : i have had the MoFi ONE-STEP (2016)and i have sold it one year later : i have a US 1st Pressing 1-D / 1-D (Santa Maria ?), it has the audio channels reversed, and to my ears it sounds fantastic. (.. after three or four different US 1st pressings !!)
        Best regards from Switzerland, Luca

        1. Luca, glad to hear our records are holding up.

          Sorry to hear you wasted your time on the Mofi Abraxas — did you want to hear just how bad a job they did mastering it?

          1D stampers for Abraxas can be very good — they range in sound from 1.5+ to 2.5+ when cleaned properly. Glad to hear you found a good one.

          Best, TP

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