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Hot Stamper Pressings of the Music of Miles Davis Available Now

I recently wrote about Bitches Brew. A few excerpts:

The staff may or may not like these kinds of records, but I sure don’t. To be honest, Bitches Brew fits just fine into a section I like to call “albums I can live without.” The world is full of them.

Music is deeply personal. If you don’t feel the need to like what other people like, you and I should get along just fine.

This is music for those who want to be challenged. That’s as true today as it was 50+ years ago when the record came out.

I still don’t care for it though. In my defense, allow me to fall back on the wisdom of de gustibus non est disputandum.

A fellow left me this comment:

Really enjoyed this piece on ‘Bitches Brew’, your take on the album’s density, texture, and restless energy was a great read. It’s fascinating how Miles managed to create something that still feels both challenging and endlessly rewarding all these years later. I especially appreciated the way you framed its impact beyond just jazz, because that’s exactly why the album keeps drawing people back in. I also run a small blog with a few articles about Miles Davis, I hope you’ll take a look, I’d appreciate it.

I thought that it deserved a reply and came up with this one:

Dear Sir,

The records we sell must stand the test of time. Can we say that Bitches Brew stands the test of time? In some ways, yes, absolutely. People are still writing about it. People are still buying it.

But is anybody sitting in a room, by himself, facing two speakers with the lights down low, and actually able to enjoy the music enough to get through all four sides of it? Let me put it as nicely as possible: the most likely answer would be “not many.”

We’re looking for customers who will pay hundreds of dollars for an album. One album. They typically do so with the understanding that they will want to play such an album over and over again. Maybe even become obsessed with  it.

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Forum Advice: “Now I know it’s for real, but I don’t think I’ll be buying any more…”

Basic Audio Advice — These Are the Fundamentals of Good Sound

Our good customer Aaron wrote to tell us about a posting he saw on the Steve Hoffman forum. (Numerous edits have been made since I first wrote a reply.)

On the forums, I read a post by a guy who took my advice. He bought a hot stamper for $100, then bought the same deadwax on Discogs for $40. He mixed them up so he wouldn’t know which was which. He found your copy superior. His conclusion? “Now I know it’s for real, but I don’t think I’ll be buying any more…”

Unfortunately, the whole thread got deleted, so it’s not like you can go read it for yourself.

Regards, Aaron

Dear Aaron,

A hundred dollars? For an old record? Of course he’s not buying another one. He was crazy to buy the first one! No record is worth that.

Or at least that’s what I would expect to read in the follow-up comments.

On a more serious note, our Hot Stamper pressing could’ve been a lot better than the one this person bought off Discogs, a little better, or possibly even no better.

Stereo Bashing

That’s because nothing you read on the Hoffman forum can be taken seriously. The stereos these folks have – I’m assuming, since all the evidence points in that direction and no evidence points in any other direction — are not capable of reproducing music at a high level.

You’ll notice very few of them ever talk about their stereos, about the improvements they’ve made to them, or even the idea of challenging themselves to make any improvements to the quality of their playback.

Too Much Trouble

Why would they? It’s simply not what the forum is for. It is not for Hi-Fi types. It is for the mid-level audiophile who needs someone to tell him what he wants to hear in order to save him the trouble of working it all out for himself. (Of course he will never be able to do that, and at least part of the reason is that, out of the thousands of folks on this forum, there may not be a single one of them who understands audio and records at anything other than the most superficial level. If there is a person with deep knowledge of these subjects, outside of a select few of my customers who wasted their time posting there, I have yet to read him.)

A Cult of Personality

It is, furthermore, rather obviously and nakedly a personality cult, one built around the pretense that there exists someone in the professional world of audio who knows all the answers and, miracle of miracles, can be coaxed into emerging from his sacred cave to share some wisdom with the reverent masses who hang on his every word. His way must be the only way. Any hint of apostasy is swiftly punished by those who monitor the forum, along with the piling on by true believers itching to denounce anyone who fails to toe the line.

If none of that works, exile from the cult community must follow. No poisonous discussion of pressing variations is to be allowed (see below).

Software and Hardware

Clearly the forum is set up to allow music lovers to exchange opinions and information about software. The hardware side of it is none of your damn business.

The fact that the software is being placed into the equivalent of a long-out-of-date, poorly-functioning old computer doesn’t seem to be of concern to anyone.

And why should it?

All that stereo stuff costs a lot of money and takes a lot of time. It requires a dedicated room that I suspect few of the people on the forum have access to. Room treatments? You have to be kidding. What the hell for? Good software solves all your audio problems. You just need to know which version of it to buy and your troubles are over.

God forbid they would pull their speakers out from the wall and find another place to put the TV. That is just never going to happen.

For that and many other reasons –reasons that nobody really wants to talk about, or, worse, hear about — they are in no position to make judgments about the sound of any recording, on any format.

You won’t have to read many postings to get a painfully clear picture of how much work these folks have put into their setup, system and room in the pursuit of audio excellence. And that, more than anything written above, explains why they will continue to embrace one bad audiophile pressing after another, no matter how bad their sound.

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Is It Possible to Find Out Who Mastered the Japanese Thrillers?

Hot Stamper Pressings of the Music of Michael Jackson Available Now

A letter we received not long ago made the point that the Japanese pressing of Thriller the owner had been listening to for years, even decades, fell well short of the mark set by the sound of the White Hot Stamper pressing he now owned.

To think, I spent all those years playing and re-playing a record that was bright and edgy, none the wiser to matrix numbers and pressing variations.

I agreed, saying that I myself learned the hard way, having wasted some of my own money on them. that Japanese pressings were almost always a crock, writing:

Most Japanese pressings cater to what a mid-fi system would need to sound good and a hi-fi system would find ruinous. They are almost always made from dubbed tapes, which are then brightened up in the mastering phase since that is the sound that appeals to the Japanese market for some reason unknown to me. Old school audio equipment — horn speakers and vintage tube electronics — would be my guess.

A fellow who saw an opening to set me straight and take me down a peg, all without having to learn how to use that pesky shift key on his computer, left the following comment in that post:

the japanese pressings were mastered by BG. the only difference being the quality of the material. nice try though, snakeoil salesman.

I immediately went to battle stations. I doubted whether Bernie Grundman has mastered any pressings for the Japanese market, but I couldn’t say for sure. It’s a question that had never come up. We ourselves had discovered a very good sounding pressing of Tusk that was mastered by Ken Perry and pressed in Japan, so I knew it was possible that the original mastering engineer could have sent metalwork to Japan for the Japanese to produce properly-mastered records for their market.

Fortunately, Discogs makes checking such things fairly easy. I went right up to the listing for Thriller and clicked on all the Japanese original pressings to see if there was any evidence to show that he had mastered them.

Bernie Grundman’s name was credited on the back cover as the mastering engineer, but I didn’t put much stock in that. I assumed that he did not master the album for their market, since that is hugely impractical. I surmised that removing his credit would have badly defaced the jacket, something I doubted the Japanese would have found acceptable. They seem to be very particular about these things.

Sure enough, here is what the stampers look like for the typical Japanese pressing that supposedly would have been mastered by BG:

There are about half a dozen original Japanese pressings for the album on Discogs and all the stamper listings look like the one above.

If you know anything about records, you know that these markings could not have been created by Bernie Grundman’s mastering operation here in the states.

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Big Star’s #1 Record – Is All Analog Better?

Robert Brook runs a blog called The Broken Record, with a subtitle explaining that the aim of his blog is to serve as:

A GUIDE FOR THE DEDICATED ANALOG AUDIOPHILE

We know of none better, outside of our own humble attempt to enlighten that portion of the audiophile community who love records and are looking to understand them better.

Here is one of Robert’s postings from way back in 2021. The reason it is going up today is that the fellow who remastered the record for Craft, Jeff Powell, also remastered the Born Under a Bad Sign we reviewed recently here. Small world, right?

Back in the 90s I played an import pressing that was in print at the time. As I recall it was very bright, but that seems to be the sound the band was going for. I like Power Pop as much as the next guy, but the bright sound put me off and that was that. I never offered the record for sale, figuring that most customers would not be happy with the sound.

Chris Bellman cut the record for Classic Records in 2009, reportedly on an “All Tube” cutting system. Based on the man’s previous work I would not expect it to be to my liking. He cut a serviceable version of Brothers in Arms years ago, which I thought was quite good for anything pressed on Heavy Vinyl. It would probably earn a grade of 1.5+. Eventually I will get around to posting a review on this blog about it. To say Chris Bellman is no Robert Ludwig may be a massive understatement, but is there anyone today who can begin to match the mastering skills of the great RL?

By the way, the cheapest copy on Discogs is $163.04 if you are interested.

Big Star’s #1 Record Reissues: Is ALL ANALOG Better?

 

Most of the reviews on Discogs are of the Five Star “I can’t believe how good this record sounds” variety, something that is both tiresome and somewhat sickening considering that the quality is sure to be as poor as Robert says it is, if not worse.

One guy had the temerity to stick his head up, offering a dissent from the lovefest being thrown for a record he found of dubious quality. Naturally, a bunch of Discogers jumped all over him for his apostasy.

It’s just now dawning on me that this sort of behavior is not limited to the Steve Hoffman forum.

Here he “risks eternity” by speaking his mind. If they could find a way to burn him at the stake for the crime of questioning the quality of a Heavy Vinyl pressing they happen to like, you can be sure they would be organizing the gathering of the kindling at this very moment. They call him an “elitist goof, ” “a wanker,” and question his bona fides as an audiophile, the standard-issue audiophile forum approach to those who waver from the true path.

This is my favorite reply, offering little more than an appeal to authority. These guys are pros. How could they possibly make a bad sounding record? That’s not what they do, you idiot!

Why anyone would choose to associate with such intolerant, ill-mannered, small-minded people is beyond me.

The true believers at the Hoffman forum are even worse. There, if you write something upsetting to the delicate sensibilities of its members, they simply delete the post and send it down the memory hole where it can no longer do harm to the faithful.

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John writes: “The only problem I have with my evaluations is that I never heard his records.”

More Commentaries Prompted by Forums, Videos and Comments Sections

Please check out the interview Wired conducted with me a few years back.

If you have some time on your hands, maybe too much time on your hands, go to the comments section and read the 300 plus postings that can be found there, the writers of which seem to be offended by the very idea of Hot Stampers.

They also decry the obvious shortcomings of analog vinyl itself, as well as the ridiculously expensive equipment some “credulous, misguided audiophiles,” their terms, use to play vinyl records, as if you didn’t know already!

Here is one that I found to be especially interesting, from a psychological perspective if not from an audio one. (Emphases added.)

Bad, mismatched system setup. Customer base probably has the same. Also evaluation process is questionable. Uses a mediocre solid state amp and looks for “tubey magic” because of some misplaced concept of “accuracy” as I discussed before. [Man, this guy has got our number all right, ouch!]

Yes, there is a lot of bad stuff out there, and it does give the stereo industry as a whole a bad name. I have heard some pretty crappy, expensive setups in my day.

I was listening to Phoebe Snow’s “Second Childhood” on my best system last night. Boy, I love my new turntable!

The only problem I have with my evaluations is that I never heard his records. My comments are probably correct, but it would be interesting to audition a few of his “golden” albums just to confirm he hasn’t really found anything. The reason I am confident that he probably does not have anything is because virtually every repressing I’ve heard is better than the original. Claiming otherwise hurts his credibility.

John

There is one sentence in the paragraphs above that should raise a giant red flag and help you to appreciate how reliable John’s analysis of our stereo and methods might turn out to be. If you didn’t catch it the first time through, give it another shot. Okay, here goes:

The reason I am confident that he probably does not have anything is because virtually every repressing I’ve heard is better than the original.

That’s so strange! Virtually every repressing I’ve heard is worse than the original.

What gives?

If I may paraphrase our writer: the reason I am confident that he probably does not know anything about records or audio is that he thinks repressings are always better than vintage pressings.

We’ve critically auditioned tens of thousands of records, including many hundreds of repressings, admittedly on our “bad, mismatched system setup,” and I guess we must have gotten it all wrong over the 38 39 years we’ve been in the audiophile record business. The shame of it all!

Obviously, John knows he does not need to try one of our Hot Stampers. You can see him talking himself into the wisdom of doing nothing with every paragraph he writes.

It’s easy for him to be right by simply pretending to know something he cannot possibly know.

(Knowledge that is not backed up by empirical findings [1] comes in for a lot of criticism here at Better Records, and for good reason. Guessing, speculating and assuming are poor approaches to separating good pressings from bad ones.)

And if he did ever order one, and had at least a halfway decent stereo to play it on, it would turn his world upside down so fast it would make his head spin, and the possibility of that happening would be very, very upsetting. It makes no sense for John to risk such an outcome.

Even if our records were as cheap as the ones he is buying, even the superior sound would not justify the psychological damage that would result. He would basically have to start his collection over again, as this customer did.  A few hundred others just like him have done the same, and they’re the ones that will be keeping us in business for years to come. To paraphrase another famous saying, “They’ve heard the future, and it works!”

Better for John to follow the path he is on. It’s working for him. Why would he want to rock his own boat?

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